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Title: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: shinglis on May 29, 2019, 08:56:36
Ok time to start a new thread for players movements, rumors etc.

Starting point being :

UNDER CONTRACT ( 8 ): Ecrepont, Ferguson, Harvie, Muirhead, Docherty, McGuffie, Murdoch, Forrest

OUT OF CONTRACT (14): Hare-Reid, Adams, Bell, Geggan, Higgins, Crawford, Faulds, Hilton, Kerr, McCowan, McDaid, Moffat, Moore, Shankland

LEAVING (5): Rose (Coventry City), Smith (Dundee United), Doohan (end of loan), Miller (end of loan), Cadden (end of loan)

Update -
Leaving - McDaid, Higgins
Resigned - Kerr, Bell
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: fcrawford on May 29, 2019, 15:53:41
McCowan signed a 2 year deal a few weeks back.
https://ayrunitedfc.co.uk/luke-signs-new-deal/
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: TonyH on May 31, 2019, 17:45:04
Moffat and Geggan signed for another year
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: titus on June 06, 2019, 15:06:32
Moore + adams sign till january.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: weejoe on June 06, 2019, 19:18:11
Declan McDaid signs a 2 year deal with Dundee. A bit disappointed to hear this, as Dundee is not a move up from Ayr United. You only have to look at how we humped them last season.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 07, 2019, 00:52:20
I think it's a good move for McDaid, bigger club, presumably more money and a fresh start.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: ghostofjimmysmith on June 07, 2019, 08:20:34
Typical mercurial lower league winger. Maybe Dundee can coach him to consistently take on and beat his man but I don't think it is there.

Harvie and Geggan/new rb know what to do when we play against them to make him withdraw into his shell.

Really hope Shankland to them as well is just hot air.

Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: weejoe on June 07, 2019, 12:51:45
I am not of the opinion that Dundee are a bigger club than Ayr.  They have a wee bit a parachute money to offer players a better contract.  This will be short term. If they don't go straight back up they will end up in the doldrums of Scottish football.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: ghostofjimmysmith on June 07, 2019, 13:18:52
Sorry I have to disagree Dundee average attendance this season 6024, last season 5987. Our average 2157 this season versus 1588 last season.

Had so many shysters in charge but have been up and down from the premier league about 10 times since we were last up there, played in Europe etc etc. Total shock we were challenging for the title last season and finishing 4th and reaching play offs was seen as an achievement. That would be a disappointing season for Dundee.

Personally don't think McDaid is premier quality so this was probably, other than Dundee United the biggest club he could have gone to. Good luck to him, but I think he is too inconsistent to be a roaring success, but maybe the better coaching inevitable with a bigger budget will see him kick on. Would have been going wtf if he had moved to Morton, QOS etc as that is in no way a big move.

Shankland a mix of too good for the championship/needs to prove himself at a higher level so will be serious wtf if he joins someone in our league.

Crawford another enigma. I have no idea if he is as good as he will get or better coaching would see him adding goals/killer passing to his game. Be less wtf if he moved to Morton, QOS etc if he said he just needed a change.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: weejoe on June 10, 2019, 13:15:30
Okay ghostof jimmysmith, I take your point about Dundee, well presented and I have to agree with you. I will now climb back in my box.

I just felt McDaid would have moved onto something bigger.  I have to agree that last season there were too many indifferent performances.

Crawford, I think he is as good as he is going to get as I believe he is 27/28 ish.

Good luck to the both of them.

I see Nicky Devlin is coming back to Scotland and has signed with Livingston.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: ghostofjimmysmith on June 10, 2019, 15:09:18
One of the joys of the game is that we see things differently and are allowed to disagree :D

I actually think that your disappointment that a player left us for Dundee and not someone better is refreshing compared to where we were just a couple of years back.

Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: MonkeyHeid on June 13, 2019, 12:47:40
Welcome to Super Ayr Sam.

https://twitter.com/AyrUnitedFC/status/1139132643994427394
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: ghostofjimmysmith on June 13, 2019, 15:16:23
Wikipedia updated quickly. Think the last couple of sentences came from a source other than McCall   :)

Quote
On the 13th June 2019, Ian McCall has moved to make Sam his first signing of the summer transfer window by adding Aberdeen defender Sam Roscoe to the Championship title challengers. Ian said: "Sam is a left sided centre back who has a serious presence about him. We needed a replacement for Michael Rose and Sam is a different type of player. He has played almost a full season at Championship level and did very well. We have got him on a 2 year contract and are absolutely delighted to get the deal over the line. Sam is over the moon about joining Ayrshires biggest club. This season we will steamroller our way to the Premier League and Sam will be rock solid in defence. I just hope that Kilmarnock FC go in the opposite direction"
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: real deal on June 14, 2019, 13:00:43
Robbie is offski
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: TonyH on June 14, 2019, 19:03:46
Crawford away, probably the best thing for his own career.
Be interesting to see where he goes, good luck to him.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: real deal on June 14, 2019, 20:09:05
Leon Murphy on loan to Stranraer until January
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: TonyH on June 15, 2019, 16:09:34
Robbie signs for Livingston
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: Maybole Mauler on June 16, 2019, 11:39:23
Good luck to Robbie, he's been a loyal player over many seasons. It will be interesting to see how he does at a Premier League club. as he really didn't contribute too much last season in the Championship, except hard work closing down in midfield. I don't think he scored any goals or had many assists either.

It should be an interesting game against Livingstone on 16 July with both Robbie and Nicky Devlin playing against us.

The Manager needs to crack on now to get in about 5 or 6 new players, in particular, an experienced goalkeeper and some firepower upfront. It won't be easy with our limited spending power, but I'm sure an experienced Manager like Ian McCall will not let us down.

Can't wait for next season to start, as Saturdays are very dull at the moment.


Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: Ayr Apparent on June 16, 2019, 16:46:57
Ayr's midfield players will be shaking in their shoes at the prospect of a match against Livingston, with Robbie running alongside them, threatening to tackle but never quite getting around to it.


I always viewed Robbie as having real potential but I've listened to successive managers saying he needs to add goals to his game. Unfortunately, he hasn't managed to do that in the past six seasons. In more recent years I've found it increasingly frustrating how he has sprinted towards opponents only to pull up at the last moment and do nothing. Add that to his tendency to match the runs of opponents without actually putting in a tackle without conceding a free kick and I'm not alarmed about his departure.


On the positive side, he has been enthusiastic, conscientious and well worth giving an opportunity. I hope Robbie goes on to have a bright future in the game but to be particularly unsuccessful when he plays against Ayr United.   
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: ghostofjimmysmith on June 17, 2019, 08:28:05
Whatever your opinions of Robbie as a player, he is an academy graduate who played 226 times for the club including two spells in the championship - what we want the academy to produce more of.

Good luck to him, Livingston is probably the right kind of club for him to move to, smallish squad, club expected to struggle so will get a chance etc.

Interesting to gauge other championship teams fans reaction on P + B, they seemed to have a higher regard for him than we did. I think how we regarded him was coloured by his inclusion for so long in a midfield that included Gilmour and Donald.

Would be funny though if L*vvy have signed him to play right mid.

Hope he slips Ryan McStay a wee bung as well, as his honkingness is what gave Crawford his chance.

Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: shinglis on June 24, 2019, 10:38:24
Welcome to the Super Ayr Kris.

https://twitter.com/AyrUnitedFC/status/1143083351588397056
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: AYRSHIRE_ANGUS on June 24, 2019, 13:31:09
Its worth reading some of the comments about Ian McCall's expression  ;D
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: TonyH on June 24, 2019, 14:08:53
McCall looks like he's going to thump anyone who goes near him !
Going by his AU media interview McCall sounds very confident that Doohan will be back.
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Post by: Ian Boswell on June 25, 2019, 22:59:35
I see we have signed ex-Partick Thistle striker Kris Doolan. See club website.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: MonkeyHeid on July 08, 2019, 22:10:56
Welcome to the Super Ayr Frank Ross on a 6 month loan from Aberdeen FC.

Would be good to see more of this
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: ghostofjimmysmith on July 10, 2019, 15:36:34
What is happening with this one as announced as a done deal on Monday but McCall in AP saying it is highly likely?
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: Maybole Mauler on July 10, 2019, 17:14:41
Stephen Kelly signs on loan from Rangers. He seems highly rated at Ibrox, hopefully, he will do us a turn in midfield during the season.

I must admit I'm not a fan of loan signings, especially after the two we signed in the January window last season(Cadden & Miller), who were average at best.

Hopefully, we'll sign an experienced 'keeper in the next few days and we'll be all set for a decent season.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: ghostofjimmysmith on July 11, 2019, 08:41:24
Lad is highly rated by the folks I have spoken to that follow Rangers so on that basis looks a decent signing.

Only slightly jarring thing for me, and not draping a cloak on negativity just bellyaching, is that LC said in the facebook chat that complying with Project Brave requirements is a significant financial drain on the club - yet when we are short of bodies we bring in other clubs 19 year olds.

At what point do we start to set some expectations on the academy relationship that is more than one player making a first team breakthrough every other year - being generous on that as McGuffie and McCowan still works in progress - even someone over 5 foot 8 coming through the academy would be progress.
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: kb on July 11, 2019, 11:44:09
Heard this about Stephen Kelly from a R*****s fan at the work this morning
Yes very highly rated, midfield player, maybe a bit on the light side but we will see
He played a few games towards the end of last season

Sounds a promising signing
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: real deal on July 12, 2019, 17:56:21
Ross Doohan back in season loan great news
Title: Re: 2019 / 2020 Players In - Out.
Post by: TonyH on July 12, 2019, 19:16:38
Great to see  Doohan finally confirmed